A. Question
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First Shot
(Question 1. A mail to br. A) |
2018 Feb 28
Dear br A
This is 東 信男(Higashi Nobuo) from Japan.
We talk about one new man in July '17.
And I know that you believe that one new man is the church and also
the one new man is in our spirit, and this is not a contradiction.
I see that you are with br Lee.
And, let me ask you a question about the one new man in our spirit.
Where are both, the Jews and the Gentiles?
東 信男(Higashi Nobuo)
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Comment: 7 days passed but no answer came. Then, the second mail to brs.
B,C,D was sent.
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Second Shot
(Question 2. mail to brs. B,C,D) |
2018 Mar 09
Dear brothers in LSM
This is 東 信男(Higashi Nobuo) from Japan.
Br. Lee says in his Ephesians LSM24 “the new man is also in our spirit" as below referred to. Then let
me ask you a question.
Where are the two, the Jews and the gentiles?
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OUR SPIRIT
The phrase “in spirit” is found in every chapter of Ephesians, except chapter one. Do you realize what is in our spirit? You may say that the Lord Jesus and the Spirit of God are in our spirit. This, of course, is correct. But now we need to see that the new man is also in our spirit. God’s habitation, His dwelling place, is in our spirit (2:22). In type, the ancient city of Jerusalem was God’s dwelling place, but today God’s dwelling place is in our spirit. Our regenerated spirit is today’s Jerusalem. You may think that there is no comparison between the city of Jerusalem and our spirit. Jerusalem was a large city, and our spirit is very small. But if you know the Bible, you will realize that our spirit today is much larger than Jerusalem. Our spirit is universally spacious. The problem is that we are too individualistic and think only of our individual spirit. But when the Bible speaks of “your spirit,” it includes the spirits of all the saints.
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東 信男(Higashi Nobuo)
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Comment: 12 days passed but no answer I received, then I sent the 3rd mail
to all brs. A,B,C,D.
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Third Shot
(With no answer, mail to brs. A,B,C,D) |
2018 Mar 21
Dear brothers in LSM
This is 東 信男(Higashi Nobuo).
I mailed you a question for two times,
and waited for your answer max for 20 days.
But I received none.
I believe,
you thought and thought and thought,
considered and considered and considered,
but you could not find out the answer,
so you gave up to mail me.
I see.
Now, If you want to know the answer.
Please visit this page.
東 信男(Higashi Nobuo)
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Forth Shot (fb)
(The answer and etc.)
partially revised '18.Apr. 17 Original |
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B. Answer |
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The Jews and the gentiles are also in our spirit.
You may say, "The Jews and the gentiles also in our spirit!? Impossible!"
But I say, "Possible." That one new man including the Jews and the gentiles is in our spirit is right. For the new man should be put on. That you cannot answer my question proves that your understanding of one new man is wrong even fake.
"Because the new man was created with us, who belong to the old creation (Eph.2:15)...(foot note Col.3:103)"???
"One Body(v.16) is the body of Christ the church"???
Do sleep-talk only while you're sleeping.
Now look!
In Eph.2:1-6, here(vv.5-6) is a complete and perfect union of Christ with us the Jews(v.3) and the gentiles(v.1-2). This complete and perfect union is the one new man(v.15-16). And also, this is the masterpiece(v.10), one Spirit(v.18), a holy temple(v.21) and a dwelling place of God(v.22). One existence with many names.
Eph.2:1-6
1 And you, though dead in your offenses and sins,
2 In which you once walked according to the age of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, of the spirit which is now operating in the sons of disobedience;
3 Among whom we also all conducted ourselves once in the lusts of our flesh, doing the desires of the flesh and of the thoughts, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest;
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in offenses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)
6 And raised us up together with Him and seated us together with Him in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus,
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C. What are these "we"?
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From the Cherubim woven on the veil in the tabernacle, br. Lee saw that Christ involved all things into His flesh in His incarnation.This is a great light of revelation which br. Lee saw (Eph.LSM24, Col.LSM27).
Praise the Lord.
These "we/you"(v.1-6) are not the "we/you" on this
earth, but "we/you" who had been involved into His flesh in His
incarnation. They passed through all the steps in His fleshly body while
He was on this earth and they were together with Christ crucified(v.16),
made alive, risen up and sit in the heavenlies with Him in Him. These "we/you"
I call the "objective we" and the we on this earth "subjective
we".
Read carefully above verses, and you will see that the "we" and "you" denote the “objective we“ who had been within His flesh and not the "subjective we" who live on this earth.
And the Jews and the gentiles as the “objective we“ are the constituent of the one new man in Eph.2:15. "The two"(v.15), "both"(v.14,16) are of course “objective we“. This distinction between the two the “objective we“ and the "subjective we" is crucially important. But br. Lee did not see this distinction. So, himself and you all failed to do it and you all fell into the hole of errors. And you have been there for more than 20 years. Alaaas!
And these “objective we“ are now a part of all in all(1:23) (all the
fullness in Col.1:19)which is typified by the golden Cherubim in the Holy
of Holies.
You should see that Eph.2:1-6 are the continuation from the previous verse
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D. The definition of one Spirit(the Spirit) is necessary to be corrected.
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One Spirit(v.18) is the same union of Christ with us the “objective we“.
So, you will see that the definition of the Spirit is necessary to be corrected.
Processed and ultimately consummated tri-une
God
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Processed and ultimately consummated tri-une
God plus all the fullness
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